Sidcup Alma Road School 1954

A Memory of Sidcup.

I remember going to Alma Road school back in the early fifties when they still gave you a good hiding with a cane if you got into trouble. We changed schools to the new Secondary School in Bexley Lane when it first opened. My family lived on Sidcup Hill just down from Knoll Road and on the other side (my brothers and I used to roller skate down Knoll Road towards Sidcup Hill, don't suppose that would be possible now). During the war we had an Anderson shelter and a morrison shelter, one in the lounge and the other in the back garden. Can't remember which was which now. Us four boys and Mum used to pile in the one in the lounge during an air raid, Dad was in the Army so we could all just about squeeze in together. Loved watching the dog fights above but didn't see too much as Mum used to drag me by the collar back into the shelter quick smart!! I used to collect shrapnel off the local shed roofs. After the war my Dad bought a Austin Ruby saloon that had been damaged by a doodlebug that lander on the Alma Road Girls school and had been standing on bricks in the house next door. He replaced all the windows and sunshine roof and we were the only family with a car that I can remember in our area. I know at the time there were no cars parked in Oxford road Sussex, Lincoln or Warwick Rds. Much different now. I also remember Smokey Joe who was reputed to come from a quite well to do family in Sidcup or so I was told. I also remember him riding his tyreless bike down Sidcup Hill with a load of sacks over the cross bar (no saddle) and a spare wheel instead of handlebars. I once saw him having a shave with a candle and on Guy Fawkes night we used to give him bangers to hold in his hand when they went off for a penny!! Once he had enough money he went straight into the Black Horse pub for a beer lol. I also remember walking along Alma Road in the winter and there used to be a bakers shop on the corner of Birkbeck Road and standing outside was the bakers horse and cart. As I passed the b***dy thing turned and bit me on the upper right arm and scared the life out of me. I suppose it had been badly treated. Luckily I had on a shirt two pullovers a jacket and an overcoat so I only got a large bruise. I moved with my wife to Australia in 64 and have been back a few times since and have noticed many changes


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I too was at Alma Road in the fifties, I started in 1955 and before lessons on the first day I was given fifty lines for standing in line with my thumbs in my trousers pockets. Start as you mean to go on. "Fido" Carter who turned out to be my form master in 1A administered the punishment, although the rest of the year he was alright. The second year I had the misfortune of being in 2B with R E Davidson. Looking back I recall him as a sadistic "B" but at the time I took it as part and parcel of school life. I sampled all of his weapons, Charlie the cane, Sarah the slipper and George the galoshes. Most of the class were punished regularly not necessarily for bad behaviour sometimes for spelling mistakes or anything trivial. He had his favourites who were never punished. The only other teacher that hit me was peg leg Jones, I feel guilty as we use to wind him up so he punished us with the blackboard ruler. Trouble was with his infirmity he could not execute the punishment efficiently so entertaining the rest of the class. Golden rule never upset "strong man" Carter. At Bexley Lane I managed to avoid punishment apart from the odd detention.
I recall the baker in Birkbeck Road sometimes we would buy penny rolls there then down to the "chippy" near the station.
Overall I did enjoy Sidcup Secondary and played in the first eleven.
Strangely I also left the area in 1964, but only to deepest Devon. I returned for the first time on the 25th April 2014, staying at the Crown Chislehurst for the weekend.
My memories of Alma Road were from 1952-54 my first master was Mr Moss and Mr Smith and dear old peg leg Mr Jones the cane man I often heard the squeal of pain coming from his classroom as the boys lined up for their punishment cant do that today Then the lunch time chats with the girls across the field boundary was the norm but never stray across all good fun and whistling at a favourite lass as a class group passed across the boys playground cross country sports day runs come to mind trying to find the course when you are left behind and then get lost I finished last on one occasion I have still got some copies of the Alma Mag from 1954,55,56 which are still an interesting read and include life at Bexley Lane where I spent my last 2 years leaving in July 1956 I now live in Gravesend but am often in Sidcup looking up old times
I'm John Tucker, attended from 1954-1958(??) I remember our Maths and RI master, Mr Shadwell, also peg leg Jones. I remember Mr Moss who was our gardening master who insisted all the white bits of roots got taken out otherwise all the weeds would grow again - he used the slipper. I was friends with Tony Booker, and remember 'Blackberry' who was the only one in the class who shaved and had a hairy chest! Can anyone remember the name of the English teacher who was tallish and cycled to school?
I'm Phil Josephs. I attended Sidcup secondary on Bexley Lane from 1970 to 1975. By then the head master was the cane loving Mr Jones, who we called 'Bombhead'. The name 'Peg Leg Jones' also sounds familiar, but the then deputy head was Mr Shadwell, whose nick name escapes me now. There was a science master called Carter, who we called 'Jaffa', due to a citrus fruit allergy. He also was a firm believer in corporal punishment. 'Piggy Smith' was another infamous administrator of physical punishment, along with Mr Moss, the gardening master. These guys were crucial, in what were newly permissive times. They commanded respect from most of us. The younger teachers were all fashion concious trendy twenty somethings, with our favourites being of course the mini skirted maths and English teachers, who used their maternal instincts and feminine charms to keep good order. 'Bombhead' had by then had numerous members of staff who coincidently also came from Wales. We would often "hop the wag" and be rounded up from footscray meadows, especially at the annual cross country run. This was an excellent school, at which I spent some of the best days of my life. I played for the first 11 at footy and cricket and represented the school in athletics. I did not until recent times appreciate the extremely high quality, of what at the time was regarded as an average secondary education. I hear that the school is now a mixed school of boys and girls, under a completely different name.
I am Gerald (Gerry) Horn. I posted the first memory of my time at Ama Road Secondary Modern at the head of this forum. Does anyone remember "Knacker" Clark the science master? He was always giggling his keys in his pocket so got the nickname of "Knacker" lol. I was at Alma Road school from 1950 to 53 but the later half of that was spent at Bexley Lane. I also remember the fire at the Bexley Lane Mansion as it was then, that collapsed the central dome and after that it was renovated as the new school round about 1950 I believe. Went to school with a chap called Barry Willis any one remember him? Cheers. Gerry
I'm obviously not going to recall "Knacker" Clark. However, my stepfather Mervyn Slater also attended the same school and that would certainly be around about 1950 to 55. I knew this as it was of interest that some of the teachers were still at that school when I started. I moved up to Lewisham 3 years after leaving school in 1975. I have always returned at least once a year and try to make a point of visiting the old school, but my approach would always be from the Footscray meadows end as I lived on the other side of the North Cray road, so I always park the car near St James church and the White Cross Inn, before a brisk walk through the meadows, across 'The Five Arches' bridge and then up to the school. In the early to mid 1980's, I would come across a few old school mates drinking in The King's Head in Bexley village, but have not really seen or heard of anyone for years and am genuinely shocked that there is no old boys unite website or something. That school prouduced professional footballers who played not surprisingly for Charlton and Millwall. In my time there a boy called Kevin Boland was English schools under 15 cross country champion. I was one of the few who had a parent who also attended the same school, as most of my mates were from families who were relocated from SE London. When my step father Mervyn Slater attended Alma Road, he was living close to Cray Wanderers football ground. 'Smokey Joe' was definitely a figure who by then was part of folklore, but we were more concerned with the infamous 'Grey Lady', whose tombstone lies outside of St James church and who was said to haunt the immediate surrounding area. There was almost as many alleged sightings of her than real life encounters with smokey. This is what made after school football matches slightly daunting, if afterwards you had to walk home in the dark across the meadows and through the church grounds. Thankfully at least half of our team took the same route home. If "Bombhead" had decided to hold the annual cross country run in the dark, then trust me..we'd all have dead heated for first place! Lol.
I went to Alma and Bexley Lane 1952 1956 . I too live on just off Sidcup Hill Middleton Avenue. The head teacher was Metcalf, maths teacher bombhead, English teacher taffy. I remember knacker clark, and strong man carter, always flexing his biceps trying to intimidate some of the boys.
Shadwell I think taught woodwork and had a velocette motor cycle. I remember those cross country runs across the river to five arches. My best pals were Michael Harper, and Bill Vine.
I hope I’ve jog a few more memories - Ian Stoppani

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