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Lived on the High Street at the Post Office. Then moved in 1955(?) to new Post Office on Stanley Road, almost opposite the old Garndiffaith Junior School (now Community Centre). Well recall getting a 'basin' haircut at Dai Gurney's. Also the Bar fish shop, my mom liked hake. Came back in 2008 for reunion of Junior School class of '58 - and finally got to have a drink in the Hanbury! Couldn't recognise the modern ...see more
I can remember walking to a garage down (or up) the street with an accumulator, to get it filled. I knew a girl who lived just passed the garage, and she had a collection of birds eggs. She kept them in the oven of an old unused kitchen cooker which was on the porch. I don't remember her name, but I do remember her collection of eggs. Her dad helped her with the collection, and she even had an ostrich egg. She lived ...see more
My Mum had a brother living at 'South View', Stoke Fleming and we spent many holidays with his family. There was an outside row of toilets with long wooden seats and you had to get a pail of water from the well next to the pub to flush it. They kept chickens behind the houses and there was also a swing. As a young girl, I made friends with the shoemender's daughter, Mary Bowden, who lived next door ...see more
My very first job was in Chiswick. Although I lived in Brentford, when I left school I went to work in the grounds of St Mary's and St Josephs Convent in Burlington Lane, opposite the Cherry Blossom factory..this was in 1955 and I worked there for nearly 3 years. Chiswick had always played an important part of my life. My Mum's aunt lived in Seymour Road and we often went there on a visit. Then of course there was ...see more
I remember Chez Jene, a boutique owned by the mother of presenter of radio and tv David Jacobs. I had never been in the shop, it was close to the 137 bus route in Leighamcourt Road, and whilst waiting for the bus l would look in the window at all the finery and jewellery, but never went in as it was expensive for those days. However in 1964 when expecting our first child, my mother handed me a gift, it was 'something ...see more
Great to read comments from Lynn Reynolds about Rochester Dwellings. When I was 5 to 6 years old (195O..ish), I lived in the 'dwellings' with my grandparents in 'R' Block. There were some of the first tenants in the dwellings in about 1936. Each house had an inside 'stick tinder box'. My grandparents had some lovely oil-type looking matching paintings of english country hunting scenes ...see more
From Trafford Road one would see the first shop was on the left of Cawdor Street; the workshop of Louis Donlan, tailor. Next on the left was Bolsover’s Grocery shop; popular with some customers because 'sterilized milk' was sold there. The shop was taken over by another family,their only daughter named, Alma. Next door was Mrs Rogerson’s Toffee shop; she stocked glacier mint and slabs of caramel. ...see more
My family moved to Handley in 1947 and I spent the rest of my childhood there. Our family name is Harris and my parents were Drs Paul and Zoe , they had five children. We lived off the road to Deanland. I never could work out all the Day family, there were an awful lot of them! A Mr
Violet Day and a Mrs Elsie Churchill, helped Mum. I agree all the Frith photos shown seem some what earlier than ...see more
I spent from 1958 to 1963 living in Llanilar at a house named Glanhaul, at the time it was owned by a local farmer Lloyd George. I spent many wonderful holiday time at the farm Glarafon, tenanted by Will and gwen Jones, and returned 37 years later with my wife to see so many changes - it was such a shock. My reason for this memory recall is that at my present time of life I want to build a 00 scale model of ...see more
Like a lot of boys I tried fishing at the ponds having cycled there from my home in Nunhead. Never caught a fish though! Happy days. Ken Cook
I was born in the home of my grandparents John and May (nee Hulse) Yeomans in Mere Road, my mother being the former Kathleen Yeomans. My immediate neighbours on either side were Jack and May Platt and family and Horace and Kath Gibson and family. Following my father's demobilisation from the army after WWII, I went to live with him and mum in Crewe, but before the 1950's appeared, we had ...see more
We moved to Brampton in August 1949 when my father (an RAF officer) was posted there from RAF Wharton nr Lytham St Annes. My sister was three weeks old - and my mum only just recovering from a difficult birth after also just having had her thumbnail removed.
It was not a very good start as shortly afterwards my father became ill with stomach cancer.
I attended Brampton Village school where Mr Stapleton ...see more
I lived in High Cross Road from 1945 to 1954. I have two brothers Barry and Bill (Paul).
I went to Down Lane School and Page Green School before I moved away. All my relations and friends lived in the same road or surrounding Colsterworth Road and Welbourne Road. Years later I sang in a pop group in The Swan on the corner of Phillip Lane. My mother, Dolly and father, John passed away some years ago. Like me ...see more
I was born in Lymm, at 4 Barsbank Lane in April 1960. I went to Westleigh Private school, where the head Mistress was a Mrs. Armstrong. I remember horse back riding at a stables in the village, known as Willy's, Willy was a wonderful woman. I recall trotting off every Saturday on a little black pony named Cheetah. I remember playing on the cross with my brother as kids. May Days, I was in the parade twice, ...see more
My mother Ivy Green was in the land army and I understand she was based on a farm in Pilton. Is there anyone who either recalls her name or was based in Pilton . Thanks Margaret
Happy memories, my aunt and uncle had it late sixties early seventies, John and Betty Whiteside.
I was born in Moss Bank in 1945 and had 3 brothers and one sister; my maiden name was O Connor. We lived at 12 Brown St and I have many happy memories of my first 11 years there. I went on to Notre Dame School in St Helens. I married Jim Edge from Alexander Drive in ditto and he used to work at the old Widnes baths. We now live in Australia but we still try to visit Widnes as often as we can.
I lived on Wakefeld Cutting where Ramshaws fruit 'n veg had their storage units.
I have picked 1953 because I was ten then. My father, Willie, was a Hughes and my mother, Ekbery, was a Farrell. There were loads of us in the Ferry. I lived in 9 St John St then we moved the 5 Louden Place when it was built. My father was a shot firer at the quarry until he got blown up and was lucky to survive, after that my mother made him look for another job and he got a post ...see more
these were 2 of my best friends ....if any one knows them how about letting me know i am on facebook "jacqueline whincup terzian ''or at iwhincup@telus.net
I'm trying to trace anyone who remembers Ruskin Street in Battersea, my Dad lived there as a small child and I am trying to trace where about's Ruskin Street was before it was bombed, rebuilt and renamed, thanks for any help. Austin Back
I was born in Wincanton in 1941, at 55 Penn View. I went to Noth Street School and had a wonderful time there. Wish it still was...but that was my young days. I used to watch the horse raising from the back window of the house. I was told that the old man in the Churchyard got down off the block and walked the church every night at 2400 hrs. School...what a wonderful time. I was in Mrs Ladd's class then in Mrs ...see more
We stayed in Coalburn for a month in late August/September 1970 to visit with my great aunt Agnes "Nance" Young on Bellfield Road. Met my penpal Linda Dempster. Joe McGill kept a bunch of young people busy and his mother gave us treacle toffee from the store. Spent a great deal of time with Molly Brownlie, Ella Finley and the McGregor Sisters. It's been over 40 years since I was there but think of it often and someday would like to visit again.
Over here in the United States of America most of the many thousands of Pease family members owe their existence to the brothers Robert & John Pease whose family line lived in Great Baddow, Essex, England, for many centuries. They were born, raised, married, raised their own children, & then were buried on the grounds of St. Mary’s church in that lovely town ...see more
As boys of the village along with a good few footballers at the rec, sitting on the swings was a must. I sang in the church choir and also delivered the milk around the village with a Jack Windebank from the dairy. I lived with Mr Harry Pinfold first in Horn Street and later in Burrell Road. I left the village in 1951 and went back to live with my parents at a village called Litchfield and went to ...see more
I loved working at Woolies, I was on the sweet counter. Sometimes we would swap some choc for a few biscuits..naughty but nice. Mr Lee was the manager, bit of a tarter at times, but I liked him. I remember stock-taking as I almost missed my bus home to Studley a few times. We used to take these baskets on wheels up in the lift to get stock. Good job no health and safety then as we used to climb up the metal shelving to ...see more
I was working in the Needle Factory before Woolies and met my first love. He lived on Willow Way, had a sister, and a little dog; his name was Francis Danks (Dinky). Anyone know what happened to him? Hope he had a good life. He was in the Navy. But life has allsorts of plans for us ,and off we go in the big wide world...
I have vivid memories of the shops shown in the photograph. The shop on its own, on the right of the picture was Galley's Newsagents run by brothers Roy and Dennis Galley. Having said that Dennis' wife used to serve in the shop and was my favourite person as (I was 9 in 1960) if you smiled at her and ordered 2oz of sweets you could guarantee she would give you 4oz at no extra charge! ...see more
The post from 2009 by (name unknown) reflects on my childhood spent in Talacre, because my father worked for Dora Williams as the baker. His bread and pies were awesome! I also, at the age of 7 or 8, had a job from the bakery, which was also a dairy. I had a pony and cart that I used to drive to a farm down near the main Chester road, where I would collect a big churn of milk and bring it back to the ...see more
Growing up I took ballet and tap with Mrs Driver who lived on Baxter Road. She would put a show on at the Town Hall probably around 1948-1952. Also, there would be Chrsitmas Parties there.
There is a sense of history by walking along Church Street with its deep guttering, for the times when and where horses were the transport and along to the Church, the Palace Of Eastry, Eastry Court and then Eastry farm and the C. of E. Primary School. Opposite the school was Lovers' Lane and a pretty walk between beautiful trees down to more farmland and little streams and waterways. To the right is the vicarage ...see more
This road, as the word Brook Street most clearly implies, leads down from the Cross in the distance at the top of the hill down through this avenue of trees to the Lynch. On the left are some beautiful houses with lawns and beautiful trees surrounding them. On the right is a sheep meadow and a horse chestnut tree where we used to go and throw things at the conkers to get them down. These were prize conkers ...see more
Does anyone remember Kellys The Bakers of South Moor? Any information, would be very grateful.
My grandad Bernard started his life at 54 Colville Street. He was a child of 8 to Elizabeth & Joseph Orme. I've found some Ormes living in Australia, but I'm sure there are still some Ormes in the Derby area.
I was born at 4 Back, 34 Colville Road in January 1950. These back houses were very small with a shared outside toilet. We had all manner of creatures that lived there too, massive spiders, blackbats and beetles that lived in the coal cupboard which was in the kitchen. Bed bugs...the smell of which, I will never forget. My elder sister, Pat, and I went to Conway Road Girls Secondary School. We did have ...see more
Mr and Mrs George Cleave's house, on the left in white... used to give me sixpence when I collected clotted cream for my auntie May Alice and uncle, and Ernie Jeffery! Such a lovely man, high up in the military...related to Mr and Mrs Parker, North Close.... Susan Greenway (nee Barratt).
My grandfather, Mr Lambert was the village blacksmith and lived in Pier Road. The smithy, I recall, being at the end of the row of cottages in an alleyway. His home was flooded out in the 1953 floods and I would be very interested in anyone who could supply a photo of the smithy. I was only 5 or 6 at the time and have very vague memories of it. He used to do repairs on the Lodge Hill railway line and over ...see more
My mother worked in the Coop here during WW2.
I married my husband on the 24th October 1964 at St Mary's Church,Hanwell. I must say that it is really a lovely church and the stained glass windows are magnificent. I also attend Sunday school there as a child on Sunday afternoons. My brother Alan was a choir boy there as well. I would love to be able to see photographs of this area. I went to usual school on the Cuckoo Estate, Nursery, ...see more
My nan and grandfather lived at Lindsay Cottage, Milton Combe. My grandfather was head gardener at Drakes Abbey, a short walk. I stayed with them every year for ten years from 1960. My nan used to send me up for milk at the dairy - I think she was called Doris. It was a quite place, catching a double decker bus to Buckland Momacorum to visit my aunty, walking from the top of Milton Hill over the stile, down the ...see more
My late Father in Law Joeseph Edgar was a Fireman on the trains but moved away to Manchester around 1954. He lived in School Street Barrow when married around the period of 1946. Would anyone know of him or his family please..!
Both my parents were born in Portsmouth & grew up virtually opposite each other. My paternal grandparents lived at No 1 Station Rd, Copnor, and my mother lived at various addresses in portsmouth - latterly St Bernards, 37 Copnor Road, next door to the Hardesty's who owned the bicycle shop. Another great Aunt lived at St Leonards, No 49 Copnor Rd, and another one at 23 Station Rd. My maternal gt ...see more
I was sent to Eden Hall school in about 1954. The head was Mr Lockwood ,his wife and he had two sons. When it was time for bed we all had to have malt and a cup of chocolate, then to bed. I left in 1960 in them days. I went back in 1997 on holiday and went to Eden Hall School but it had been pulled down. One night in the 1950' s there was a bad storm, it was in the Norfolk newspapers; a ship had been beached because of ...see more
We used to live in Henning Street in Battersea, we were always in Battersea Park and "the jungle" which was a playpark for teenagers with ropes and pulleys, my brothers had great fun in there whilst my friends and I were always in the funfair. I loved the fountains when they went high into the air and if it was windy would get sprayed! Often used to bunk into the Granada by the side door - very naughty! ...see more
We were sent as children occasionally, from Child's Hill to Sainsbury's on Golders Green Road. Ladies in uniforms, behind glass fronted counters, cut cheese and sliced ham to order. Everything else also behind counter and had to be requested - no self service then (and this was probably early 70's). Seven Brides for Seven Brothers at the Ionic, every day during one particularly special ...see more
Does anybody know the name of the Italian ice-cream shop in Clapham High Street in 1938? Many thanks
I lived and went to school in Camp Grisdale. My grandma and grandpa Selby lived cross the street from us, my aunt Donna and uncle Auto lived 3 houses up from us, and my uncle Dan and aunt Gloria lived by the school. My dad's name was Frank Hayes, he and my mom Mary raised four kids (my sisters Martha and Debbie, and my brother Frankie). I loved it there and miss it alot; the freedom and the fun we had as kids ...see more
I don't know if this picture relates to my family or not! I am a descendant of the Whitlow family of Thewall, in the mid 1700's onwards. There is a large ground stone in St Marys churchyard in Rostherne, about the first row and 5 stones back from the the church, with a lot of the names of lost ones (my uncles Harry and Mick went there in the 1980's). I would enjoy hearing from anyone related to this ...see more
My ancestors go back to George Whitlow born 1738 died 1814 and his wife Elizabeth (nee Holland or Rolland) born 1739, died 1806. There is a big ground stone at St Marys churchyard with inscriptions of them and their lost ones. There are lots of John Georges', Richards, Marys. Richard Whitlow born 1830 came to New Zealand in 1857 and settled in Woodend Canterbury. If anyone in High Legh is related to ...see more
Our family talked about an ancestor who owned Lickley Street and who drank himself to death along with his butler. Does anyone have any knowledge of this?
I was born at 20 Hutton Street, my dad had died 6 weeks before I was born. My grandparents, Isobel & Bob Delap, lived at 1 Downs Lane. I went to Eppleton School, I remember them days well. My friends; Norma Simpson, Florence Wilson, Laura Owens and myself got in trouble most mormings for giggling in assembly. I left Hetton in the 60's and moved to Notts area but still go back to Hetton to visit our Albie (Cullen).
My name was Susan Penfold and I grew up in a small house on Evelyn Avenue in Newhaven. My mother's mother was one of seventeen children born in Piddinghoe. I used to visit my grandmother's home and aunt Tops, auntie Else and uncle Pearce were kind to me. As a child they would give me home made cake and parsnip wine. I loved the river and I really loved the fruit trees and the chickens in their coops close to the river ...see more
I am Keith, grandson to Walter & Gertrude Sumner of Attorney Garth and cousin to Andrew Shepard, son of Betty (Elizabeth) Sumner. Many happy days my brother (Ray) & I spent with my grandparents. Many times we would walk to Penruddock station to see station master Sid Wriggley and many times Sid would ask a steam train driver to take us for a few miles ride up the track & back! That ...see more
I went to this school from 1967 to 1973, it was the greatest time of my life.I was in Oak Dorm, my teacher was Mr Stanley and my friends were; Peter Keen, Alan Good, Stephen Gilly, Rebeca Right and Ronda Masters. I loved Christmas here, I remember Mr Booth and his duaghter, but did not like Mr Clark much.
I'm pretty sure this was the Grammar school. Not sure when it changed into the Grammar School though. Perhaps I should have paid more attention! It expanded over the years with many temporary buildings added at various times. When I attended 1966-73 there were close on 400 pupils ranging from 11-19. One of whom decided he would burn the school down, and yet more temporary buildings were added as a result! Houses are on this land now.
Hi kilbirnie folks world wide. This is the poem you have all been asking for. No ettlin oanything wrang, wee albin daunert alang by the side o the orchard wa, where the pears an apples an aw were hinging ready tae fa. Folk say an its ma belief opportunity maks the thief, a hole in the wa in view, whit less could albin do but wrastle haulf wae through. An there ayont the wa whit wis it albin saw, a giant six ...see more
I used to frequent the stadium during the 60's I remember some of the jockeys, Lord Langford Trevor Payne, Graham Grantham, Steve Birch and many more...it was great, I really enjoyed the buzz.
This photo was probably taken soon after the newly built Civic Suite was officially opened for use as public offices. The town's population was expanding rapidly as the local big industries attracted more and more workers from far and wide. Chelmsford Borough Council was incorporated in 1888 and in its early years the small number of employees worked in rented rooms or buildings. In the late 1920's the building ...see more
I was at Tenterfield from December 1951 until April 1952. I remember the Irvine family, particularly Winston and James. I also attended Lasswade School later as I think Winston did too. Most of the nurses at Tenterfield were kind, although I was in awe of the matron and especially her old mother who lived at Tenterfield too. We all wore the same type of clothing which made for easy identification at Knox Academy, which we all attended. Happy days, maybe!
Jim Wyllie, Calgary, Alberta, Canada.
To the left of the Chelmsford Infirmary and Dispensary (as it was known), stands the Ebenezer Strict Baptist Chapel which was built in 1848. This place of worship is still in regular use in the 21st century despite its congregation having to do so against the noise of the traffic from Parkway, which now crosses New London Road and past its east boundary wall.
Have discovered a wedding of William Blackmore (my ancestor) to Sarah Furze on 8th June 1752 in Ash Priors. Her dad was born 1700, then my trail goes cold so thought I would explore (online) the village which looks beautiful. Would love any info on this village, or its population at this time. Thanks, Carole Winters
When I was a child in the 1960s we spent several happy family holidays at Lytham St Annes, and the Lifeboatmen’s Memorial on the promenade at St Annes always had a very strong effect on me. It commemorates the worst disaster in the history on the RNLI, when a total of 27 lifeboat crew lost their lives on a stormy night in 1886. The St Annes memorial is a likeness of the coxswain of the local ...see more
This photo show a small photographer's kiosk. I obtained a Frith print of this image but with a magnifier all I can see is the dot screen used to produce the print. I wonder if anybody knows who was running the photographer's kiosk in 1955?
The smell of coffee probably wafted out from the shop at No.10 Duke Street. Basil Harrison was the town centre's grocer for many years who specialised in coffee. His coffee grinding machine stood just behind the shop window from where he could watch the passers-by and the town's changing life. He left diaries of all the observations he had made over the decades. Many of his earliest memories were put ...see more
This photo almost makes history come alive with the turning of the corner to make us wonder what lies there and the old houses in the foreground with the deep guttering. I guess that helped people avoid the water and waste from the horses, or in wet weather. It was easier to mount your horse from the top of that deep drop. Most of the houses used to be for old single ladies who looked very fierce in church to a 9 year ...see more
There are plenty of brick walls along most country lanes and so I am having trouble placing this. It might be near to Selson Farm which is actually not too far from Hammill brickworks. The clay under the chalk was just right for a thriving brick-baking industry. Near to Selson Farm are some buildings with some windows blocked up with bricks. A few hundred years ago when they brought in the window ...see more
This new housing estate was built pre the broadcasting of the soap-series The Newcomers. That programme was a soapie but dealt with the theme of newcomers settling in and being accepted. Was it 'keep yourself to yourself' or mixing in? A bit of each. These people I imagine had proper cars (the latest Toyota) and proper office jobs. We carried on at the mushroom farm or picked hops or picked up and sorted out blighty ...see more
Again, we notice Eastry is set atop a hill and the Roman Road continues its way down and along to Sandwich. On the way are Dutch sounding place names such as Felderland Lane. The land is very flat and it wouldn't surprise if it was under the sea 2000 years ago. It is now sandy and fertile either for market gardening or for orchards. When the plum and cherry blossoms arrive for two weeks the sight ...see more
I'm guessing this is looking east from the Lower Street area over meadows and a cornfield with the Children's Homes to the right and the line of trees marking the brow of the hill of the Lynch. There was a pathway across that horizon. The word Lynch may even date back to old English before Anglo-Saxon times. On this chalky soil it can get very dry and the water goes down to the springs that emerge at the foot of ...see more
I believe this is called Lower Street and behind us is Dover Road, and a turn to the east to Northbourne and Deal or a walk to the cricket ground at Updown. Behind, to the left, is Buttsole Pond where some people broke the ice when winter sliding. It is a wetland area and the sort of place where today it would have to be on a preservation list. At 45 degrees to the left and across the ...see more
The quaint older houses on the right now faced new bungalows to our left, and on our left is another walkway to the primary school. Now Jimmy came to live in one of the bungalows and then he came to our school when he was about 10. He was from Burnley, Lancashire, somewhere up north, a long way up north and his accent certainly showed itself to be different from Kentish - very different. Opposite Jimmy's house was Mr ...see more
In 1960 the world's population was probably a mere 5 billion, now it is over 7 billion people. It was a bit of a shock to realise that people actually wanted to come and live in Eastry and presumably prices were slightly less than the big city. Now home owners had to live next to council house estates and this was a test of their pride or humility. A pathway was constructed between the new council house area and the ...see more
We lived at 'Pantiles', Penhurst Rd, Bedhampton from approx the mid fifties until the mid sixties. I went first to the Priory school on Hayling Island, when Miss Rapley was Head teacher, until a Mr Neilsen-Carrigan took over for a short while until it closed, as he was a very strange man. I went on to Havant High School near Langston before completing my education with a Dress design course at Portsmouth ...see more
Hi, my nane is Moyra Lewis (nee Collier). I lived in Speke from 1947 to 1962, I went to Stockten Road School and Speke Secondary Modern School. I now live in Perth, Western Australia. Does anyone remember me? If so, plese send me a message.
The 'new' primary school in Cook's Lea (a respected headteacher in Sandwich) was built in the early sixties and is well-located next to the Gunpark to the left. The old C of E Primary School was a solid building and this new school has its modern style architecture. A famous quote is "it may be a marble palace, but as far as I'm concerned it's still a bloody school" despite the propaganda of how marvellous it all is, ...see more
Most of the names state the obvious. This is an important crossroad. Turn right to go to Mill Green along Mill Lane. Turn left to go to Vye's Stores (pre-1960) and then to the Church in Church Lane or down Brook Lane, where we assume the Brook never ran dry. We also assume that Eastry was much closer to the sea 1500 years ago. There is a view from the church of a vast flat area which we imagine has seen the sea recede. ...see more
The area called Mill Green is behind the photgrapher and the village ahead. The Mill was working up until about 1960 or so, as we used to buy corn from there to feed the chickens. To the right of the photo is the church/chapel for Eastry Hospital which catered for all sorts of mental illness or simply for men taken in after the war. The hospital was originally a workhouse and has extensive grounds and ...see more
To Norma Singleton. There is a terrace of houses between Llanddulas & Llysfaen (2 miles from Colwyn Bay) with a terrace called Tyn y Maes. My Nain & Taid lived there before moving to Llysfaen village. I live in Llysfaen & went to Pendorlan Secondary Modern school in Colwyn Bay from 1962, it then changed to a comprehensive school - Colwyn High. Colwyn Bay and surrounding areas have changed immensly.
My great great grandparents are from Bunbury. They moved to the Manchester area in the 1850's; Peter Jackson, son of Richard Jackson and Hannah Rycroft. I would love to know about them, I would also love to see pictueres of Tiverton Moss and surrounding areas. donnaalex99@hotmail.co.uk
The (Roman) road going down to Buttsole and then to Dover or Deal and Updown Cricket field to the left, was sometimes blocked by farmworkers guiding their sheep from one pasture to another through the village centre. The shop on the right is quite significant because it used to belong to Mr Penn who ran the butcher's. There was a big cold-room at the rear. Mr Penn was the devoted leader of ...see more
